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Our big turn around indonesia right now. >> at the same time, let's say we lost everything. you lost it all. you would still actually a compass. >> you would have your magnetic compass, which cannot fail. >> and then you have your own pair of eyes or even at nighttime? >> you have your visual acute. >> so in essence, there is always still a way, even if it meant pulling out the charts and doing it the way they used to and plotting a course that way. and there is still a way the pilot could get it on the ground. >> the 777 pilot on the set is weighing in here, saying not going to happen. nope, ...

Simulator realistic with the cockpit noise, whereas in an actual flight, both pilot and copilot would be wearing noise cancelling microphones and full headphones. >> right. >> so they would be able to hear each other as well as the tower very clearly. and it would block out most of that noise. >> but the noise that you're hearing would still be part of the recordings that you would retrieve from the airplane and could give you information as to what happened to this airplane. >> exactly. that would come through what we call the cockpit area microphone, the cam. that's another channel that is r...

>> there is new optimism that this could finally pinpoint the whereabouts of flight 370 after more than a month now. >> joining us now from new york, aviation analyst les abin and michael kay. thank you, gentlemen, for joining us, from sticking around from the last couple of hours that you've been with cnn. i want to start with you, michael, and get an idea what you make of this and how cautious you are being and how encouraged you're being as well. >> all of the above. i think the reality of this is what we've seen so far since day one has rewritten the history book in terms of the way that a...

Awaiting a news conference, and where we got, really, some great information. the most information we have gotten out of the searchers, we got last night. and here we are again in the same position. >> here we are again. and absolutely on tenterhooks. and i'm not sure whether the media conferences in relation to the echo or to ocean shield. but either one of these is tremendously exciting in terms of its potential to close this whole month. >> mikey kay, is michael kay still with us? >> yeah, hi, don. >> hey, michael, again, we were here last night between shows, you and i and les abin were ou...

So even if we find some kind of physical evidence for many of these people, just they will never have closure in this case. so very traumatic indeed. >> well, it's pretty awful. thank you, david mckenzie. david mckenzie in beijing. as we mentioned, we're awaiting a news conference from the joint agency that is searching for mission malaysia airlines flight 370. it is being described as an update on the status of the search. as we await that conference, my panel is back, and we have some questions from our viewers. so, les, mary -- i'm sorry, a viewer is asking can't the black boxes be removed ...