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Of that debate. beto o'rourke was the it guy in the race before pete buttigieg took that mantle. my guess is he sees the debate as he's really dead in the water politically right now. why not go at the guy who took your sort of, you know, buzz mantle? i could see that happening and it might benefit o'rourke. buttigieg just needs to be aware of it. >> if you're oremark finally, todd, what are you telling him right now? because you're not on the same stage as castro this time. if you look at his q2 fund-raising numbers they were way down. this guy needs some wind in his sails. how does he do it?...