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I'm sure we could pick apart a lot of statements that both parties have made. this is one that's easily picked on. the reality is what is said in the campaign, by frankly someone who didn't have a lot of experience in government -- >> doesn't count anymore? >> probably now he wishes perhaps he hadn't said it. >> ana, how do you see it? >> i think the -- that being said -- or is he? >> the problem here is -- is that bill weir happening? i hear he's coming south for the new year's. bill, if i see you with a golf club, i'm going to take a picture. >> who can blame him. look at this weather, guys....

And ending dakka and giving himself a tax cut. so as far as i'm concerned, you know, put a bumper sticker on the beast that said i would rather by golfing and stay there as long as can. >> we've come full circle. scott jennings, ana, thank you both. >> let him golf. >> bill, you're enjoying this. >> that could be the reelection slogan. i would rather play 36 holes a game. a virginia house seat is still in limbo after today's drawing to determine the winner. how will that tie be broken? we'll be back.

There's practically a tweet at some criticism that he wages daily. yesterday it was kwanzaa. he used to criticize obama for marking kwanzaa. yesterday he was doing it. good, he should, but on the golf part, i think there's several things. first the ethical implication, then the policy implication, and then the optics. it's not only that he's playing golf, but at his own private golf course, private club. >> hold on, ana. we do have the numbers here. he hayes spent 86 days playing golf, and 111 days spent at his own trump properties. so what's the problem? >> i tell you what the problem is, fir...

Mar-a-lago, because people get to rub elbows with the president. he's turning it into a marketing toole for a his own profit. >> okay. hold on, let me bring in -- does that make you uncomfortable, scott? >> look, i think of all the things going on in this world, it's one of those issues that the most ardent trump haters likes to bring up, but i think the average person doesn't fixate on it. we elected a president knowing he was in the luxury hotel business. what did we expect? the man loves hotels and loves golf. i'm not surprised he's staying at his own holtz. >> and you're okay with him prof...

Businesses. the sons are controlling the empire. >> of course he's note divesting from his businesses. you know, he's still very much engaged in it. it's part of his family. he is also profiting from the tax cut, even though he's not showing us his tax returns. we all know that. so you either take it or you don't, but it's very hard to argue he is not profiting from this in one way or another, and he is constantly marketing his brand. we saw it even earlier in the year when we saw government agencies do it on their own web sites. there's also the policy implications. basically playing golf tak...