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Federal district court judge. if he didn't do that, they would issue a bench warrant. the marshals would bring him before the federal district court judge. he would be ordered to testify or to assert his fifth amendment privilege. >> betsy, let's go to you. donald trump seems to have started to remove people from his presence who don't want him to testify. he seems to want to. what's your reporting on the current thinking in the white house on blorwhether or not wano go before robert muellerment. >> it's significant that bowed is no longer working for the legal team. dowd simultaneously suppor...

He could use stronger advisers or lawyers to tell him to keep his mouth shut about this thing. if he is, as he says, innocent, let mueller run his course and exonerate him. if he says there is no collusion, i think the public will believe it. >> let's listen to trey gowdy saying almost word for word what barbara mcquade just said. >> let it play out its course. if you have done nothing wrong, you should want the investigation to be as thorough as possible. >> if donald trump is watching that and he knows he has done something wrong, that advise does him no good. that is is t advise for someone...

His mouth shut about this thing. if he is, as he says, innocent, let mueller run his course and exonerate him. if he says there is no collusion, i think the public will believe it. >> let's listen to trey gowdy saying almost word for word what barbara mcquade just said. >> let it play out its course. if you have done nothing wrong, you should want the investigation to be as thorough as possible. >> if donald trump is watching that and he knows he has done something wrong, that advise does him no good. that is is t advise for someone who hasn't done anything wrong. >> right. also i'll note, fla...