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World, and we ignore the blatant misogynistic racist things that probably should be canceled. >> well, first of all, i think my general rule of thumb is to punch up. that's why when i see somebody like elizabeth saying, everybody is piling on let's say, monica lewinsky, i go what it was is what it was. but at the same time, i'm thinking about her as someone who was in that situation, going, i'm not going to jump on this. i will jump on ted cruz who might, there's an argument to be made punching down as well but that's because he's ted cruz. but the point is, i try rule of thumb always punch up...

We don't need that. speak to the ways in which we focus on the dr. seusses of the world, and we ignore the blatant misogynistic racist things that probably should be canceled. >> well, first of all, i think my general rule of thumb is to punch up. that's why when i see somebody like elizabeth saying, everybody is piling on let's say, monica lewinsky, i go what it was is what it was. but at the same time, i'm thinking about her as someone who was in that situation, going, i'm not going to jump on this. i will jump on ted cruz who might, there's an argument to be made punching down as well but t...

And so that's where i want to get to. i want to get to the point where we actually talk about real things, let's be open, frank, and honest about how we feel and about the policies and how they work for people and you who they don't work. >> one of the things you were talking about because i heard your speech earlier, you were talking about how there doesn't seem to be a home in the republican party right now for minority voters, republicans are not taking minority voters into their hearts and homes. this is not obviously a new criticism of the republican party. it's obviously one that -- >> y...