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Wrong. that's basically what he's saying now. >> grover norquist is the no tax guy, made clear that the right wing of the party expects to call the shots. this is brazen but let's listen to what was said and romney never opposed what he heard here. >> focus on electing the most conservative republican who can win in each house seat, and the most conservative republican who can win in each senate seat, and then pick a republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to become president of the united states. >> now, he's backing romney. romney signed the pledge for this guy. doesn't he ever...

If you can remember one -- >> shannon, let's be open-minded. could it be mitt romney has become a real conservative. all these months -- he went to the right on immigration, on taxes, on every issue i think, even the hawkish issues. it seems he decided to go into this campaign and never be outhawked again or outrighted again. is he that guy he painted himself as being this last year or so? >> it's a question that just can't be answered. the fact is this guy has no core. this guy will say whatever he needs to say to meet whatever is -- >> would you say that to his face? >> i would say -- never ...