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Note of administration wide direction that executive branch personnel cannot participate in the impeachment inquiry under the current circumstances, signed by the deputy secretary of defense david norquist. cooper testified wednesday under subpoena. let's chew overall of this with our experts. it seems people in the administration who have been subpoenaed even though they're being told by the trump administration not to participate are participating anyway. >> they have a lot to say. clearly what we've been hearing over the past week and a half all sounds somewhat along the same lines, right? ...

>> lauren fox, thank you so much. let's chew over all of this. and jackie, let me start with you. to a degree in the sense that this argument about process, that the democrats are holding these hearings behind closed doors is that not helping republicans stay unified in the house in terms of an argument for voters, it is an argument for house republicans and there does seem to be a degree of unity. at least on the house republican side. >> yes. >> they could complain about the process because they can't get into the substance because the substance is in defensible and now we've seen when they ...

Republican leader in the senate who said the picture emerging from taylor's testimony is not a good one. now, jake, the president said these never trump republicans are, quote, human scum, and said his top diplomat in ukraine bill taylor is a never trump republican and he someone he believes he doesn't know. that we should note that bill taylor is a west point graduate and a vietnam veteran who secretary pompeo personally recruited to come back and take this job as the top diplomat in ukraine. secretary pompeo hasn't weighed in on the president's insult to bill taylor yet. >> if he does at all...

>> these are the people with supposedly the firsthand knowledge who gave the whistle-blower the information that formed the basis of his complaint. >> reporter: now this makes clear, this opening statement, how uncomfortable taylor was about accepting the job originally and how concerned he was about the back-channel diplomatic efforts and in his opening statement he continued to note that the back-channel diplomatic channels through rudy giuliani were the ones that appeared to be taking over rather than what the top diplomat in ukraine was trying to do on behalf of the u.s. jake. >> sara murr...

Profit and put a slogan on the t-shirt and selling online. jake. >> so first then they denied the quid pro quo and then admitted it and then denied it and now selling t-shirts. >> the attorneys deem baffled. >> let's chew over this. kaitlan collins let me start with you. president trump and allies are dismissing this and acting as though it is no big deal but take a listen to republican congressman francis rooney of florida on cnn earlier today. >> you're saying at this point you are not ruling out the possibility that this is an impeachable offense for the president? >> i don't think you coul...