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Than maybe -- maybe they're lying in the weeds on this the whole time. it strikes me they spent a little more time together, if not a lot more time together than they thought they might. and i think they're both retreating to their respective camps to figure out what they just did. >> let's talk about this, howard. let's talk about some hard facts here. >> right. >> everybody on the skeptical side of this is when are we actually going to get something done in terms of denuclearization, or is this going to be a let's make friends, hands across the border occasion. i guess with john bolton stand...

Iranian nuclear threat blown out of proportion? they are really a bunch of hapless guys. they really couldn't do anything even if they did a nuke? is that how you see it. >> no. that was a cheap line about let's make friends with them. >> no it wasn't. he said it on more than one occasion. he wants to be nice to them. >> we should be friendly with everybody. but the cut out the part where he said during the 60's it was dangerous but we didn't think we had to attack the soviets. >> bill: what does that have to do with it. he wants to be friendly to iran that's what he wants. >> the alternative ...

Iranian nuclear threat blown out of proportion? they are really a bunch of hapless guys. they really couldn't do anything even if they did a nuke? is that how you see it. >> no. that was a cheap line about let's make friends with them. >> no it wasn't. he said it on more than one occasion. he wants to be nice to them. >> we should be friendly with everybody. but the cut out the part where he said during the 60's it was dangerous but we didn't think we had to attack the soviets. >> bill: what does that have to do with it. he wants to be friendly to iran that's what he wants. >> the alternative ...

Iranian nuclear threat blown out of proportion? they are really a bunch of hapless guys. they really couldn't do anything even if they did a nuke? is that how you see it. >> no. that was a cheap line about let's make friends with them. >> no it wasn't. he said it on more than one occasion. he wants to be nice to them. >> we should be friendly with everybody. but the cut out the part where he said during the 60's it was dangerous but we didn't think we had to attack the soviets. >> bill: what does that have to do with it. he wants to be friendly to iran that's what he wants. >> the alternative ...