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Play, and there is an election not too far off in australia. it could be argued that the government's actions, both the confusion over the visa and the subsequent court actions, have fired things up as well. >> yeah, they really have changed their argument considerably from the first round of appeals when it was all about the paperwork that djokovic had. the right kind of exemption. was he ticking the right boxes? the grounds they're arguing are now ideological that djokovic could be a corrosive influence in society, his anti-vax views could in some ways spur the anti-vax movement to greater a...

With. so this is a problem that pre-dates trump, and unfortunately it's a problem that the radicalization of the republican party is something that's going to persist even after trump exits the political stage. he was a catalyst, but he didn't cause this. he's more -- arguably more symptom than cause. >> daniel, you know, trump has effectively been spreading his malignant lies about an election that he won and it was stolen from him. we know that is absolutely not true. every fact and indicator shows that it's not. how can democracy function when everybody doesn't have the same understanding o...

You don't think turnout, the basic act of voting, is important? it's definitely one of the elements, but this element is largely hinged on a lot of factors. for example, there are different systems, like in singapore where they practise compulsory voting, right? the voting rate is 95%, but we definitely wouldn't say that the high turnout rate in singapore definitely necessarily means that that electoral system is better than other systems, which has a low turnout rate. and in hong kong, if you ask me if 30% turnout rate, if you compare it with like, let's say, a 2014 us midterm election, they ...

Let's say, a 2014 us midterm election, they have a 34% turnout rate. so our 30% is not really that much lower than that, considering the fact that our election, this past election, is the district level election — whereas the midterm election, the senate race in the us, is a nationwide one which usually has a higher turnout. so 30%, by any stretch of the imagination, is not something that's, like, abnormally low. could it be that the turnout, the very low turnout, was partly because the people of hong kong saw there was no variety of voices? there was no pluralism at all in the offer before ...

Of the elements, but this element is largely hinged on a lot of factors. for example, there are different systems, like in singapore where they practise compulsory voting, right? the voting rate is 95%, but we definitely wouldn't say that the high turnout rate in singapore definitely necessarily means that that electoral system is better than other system, which has a low turnout rate. and in hong kong, if you ask me if 30% turnout rate, if you compare it with like, let's say, a 2014 us midterm election, they have a 34% turnout rate. so our 30% is not really much that much lower than that, con...