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The phone call and the red wine and all of that so media interesting, that we've kind of forgotten about volker. and part of that is because volker seems like he had a better motive. he really wanted to figure out how to get this done but he hasn't told the truth either. he was in the july 10th meeting. so far, he's saying -- you didn't hear anything about the investigations. he just thought the meeting was flat and bureaucratic. volker's got a problem, too. so there are two witnesses this week who should have some serious cross-exam and need to have soul searching before they go into the cong...

Impeachment. the possibility that he might submit written answers is slightly less unlikely because it would take too long. democrat the s want to keep it moving. they don't want to get the back and forth in much the same way this got drag out during the rrm rrm a robert mueller investigation. it would undercut one of the president's talking points as they have said the impeachment inquiry is unworthiy, it's a sham. the president choosing to participate in it that way elevates these proceedings substantially. i think we should operate under the assumption it will not happen. >> okay. seeing th...

In methodical detail exactly how they felt the president was putting his own political interest over the country's interest. >> let's talk about, max, that new thing that we learned today, that something big. taylor's aide overhearing president trump asking sondland in the phone call about the investigations a day after his call with zelensky. we'll talk about -- listen, the security issues, in just a second here. but what does this say about how interested trump was in these investigations? >> well, don, it blows out of the water the attempted defense that republicans have been erecting over ...

About 2, 300 years from now. >> one thing we didn't hear about today the president's favorite saying, the call was perfect. the calm was perfect. we did not hear that argument or that defense today? >> no, other than donald trump, i don't think anyone can keep a straight face within they make that argument. we did hear we should listen carefully to witnesses, all that stuff. we should also listen to skepticism to some of what republicans are seeing. right. they're saying this is all hearsay, no direct evidence. well the people that have direct evidence are refusing to come and testify. they're...

Being health inside benjamin net there's a couple things i feel like you can break down here for ya shy said we do not wish for a second. escalation but this could take he says they're sham time. investigations. isn't that an opinion? it is l islamic jihad's choice o number two, doesn't the public deserve to know for sure? number three, don't all these things go hand in hand when you're trying to find out the cease fire or continue to get truth? >> absolutely. i think that's a perfect pummeled. we're seeing missiles and analysis. he's already showing that he's rob: welcome back. not an unbiase...