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Plan. he keeps all of the costs control, so he keeps the $700 billion in medicare cuts he ran against, and i think what a lot of people don't recognize is he also keeps the new taxes in the president's health care plan. the part he gets rid of is the care in obama care. he gets rid of the spending in it. if he didn't do those two things, get rid of the spending but keep the cost controls, he couldn't get anywhere near balancing the budget and he also couldn't pass those two policies. new taxes and medicare cuts within the next ten years. over his own conference. so he's actually piggybacking o...

Reversed himself so many times on that issue, there are reasons to be a bit cynical. back in 2010, for example, ryan blasted obama's new health care law, said, "what the bill essentially does, it treats medicare like a piggy bank." by the following year ryan was including the same medicare cuts in his own budget, not too worried about consistency there. ryan changed course again last year while running with mitt romney, the attack on the president, "here comes raid on medicare" became a major campaign theme and worked its way into ryan's convention speech. take a listen. >> they needed hundred...

Understands the scope of our challenges and he'll do the very, very, very difficult things that need to be done now. on the other hand, he won't actually admit any of these things are in any way difficult. there's a kind of sunny side where he's actually strengthening medicare. he's helping social security. he's helping medicaid. he'll make it better by putting it to the states. if you want to cut more than $4 trillion over the next decade, if you want to cap medicare as growth and turn it over to private insurers, if you want to make it so medicaid loses $750 billion over the next decade, the...

He called an obligation to our grandparents once again find their way back into his budget. he's back doing it again. i want to go back to our analyst here. ezra. it seeps to me, the far bigger picture, i know you're an expert at the nuts and bolts. but the larger dishonesty, he's showing crocodile tears about parents and grandparents. at the very same time, he's saying let's throw medicare out the window, replace it with a voucher program so someone 80 years old can go around shopping for a health care plan. by the way, let's throw out obama care, too. he's so radically different, he seems to...

Let's start there. these starting points don't seem like they're realistic in terms of what we hear the president is trying to establish. and at least some republicans are looking like they might play ball with. >> with my dnc hat on, you know, arguably, i'm -- it's not terrible that paul ryan and the republicans don't see that the voters rejected the path that they laid out. and, you know, that's going to give us more opportunities in 2014. but the responsible legislator in me who understands that we can't engage in my way or the highway politics wants us to sit down and try to continue to ha...