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Partners want to enforce no-fly zone certainly we can do that i am not convinced it is necessarily going to lead to world war iii if that happens but that aside let me ask you about possible stingers into hands of ukrainians in any case a possibility to sort of lev playing field if you will. >> i agree with you all counts. the minimum we should not be taking this -- no-fly zone off the table it should be in options, however materiel category they have really done very well with stingers, the russian air force -- lost several aircraft, but i would like to see them get their stingers replaced ja...