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York times" piece, "this town melts down" about trump coming into town, and i'm just curious. i thought it was fascinating that so many people around the white house would allow michael wo wolff to just hang out in lobbies and have complete access and think that they were going to play this guy. i was also struck by how many people in the trump white house was asking who is michael wolff. that shows at the end of the day this town you write about so much actually is in its own way, very provincial. >> it is very provincial, and there's a subset to this which is the kind of inherent provinciali...

I think it would be wrong to have said anything else. obviously he's talking about big decisions and he was the president and he made those big decisions. cheney didn't and rumsfeld didn't and obviously cheney gave advice to the president as vice president and i made an awful lot of decisions relating to the defense department, but not presidential level decisions. >> laura: if you keep in touch with george w. bush? >> not a lot. i've seen them. >> laura: what's the relationship like? >> fine. he's a thoughtful person and i thought it was a good president and i think the country was lucky he w...

I think it would be wrong to have said anything else. obviously he's talking about big decisions and he was the president and he made those big decisions. cheney didn't and rumsfeld didn't and obviously cheney gave advice to the president as vice president and i made an awful lot of decisions relating to the defense department, but not presidential level decisions. >> laura: if you keep in touch with george w. bush? >> not a lot. i've seen them. >> laura: what's the relationship like? >> fine. he's a thoughtful person and i thought it was a good president and i think the country was lucky he w...