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Squeak out that election beating richard nixon and there was the so-called chicago cemetery vote, meaning people coming out for kennedy that had already been dead, and so people will point to if illinois didn't go kennedy perhaps that election would have been different. and in recent times we all know the problems that happened in 2000 in florida with dangling chads -- >> but that wasn't rigging. that was a mechanical problem. >> exactly. that's the point. i mean most of this is about mechanical problems. on a precinct by precinct basis. >> about what you were talking about i do want to zero i...

But they're happy to put together the stories of bundlers, these are people so people know who obama and all federal candidates used to help them raise money. he discloses them and since their names are out and what they've done, it's helped put together stories of some negative stories about their ties with federal government. romney stays immune because he won't disclose. but that's another issue. >> i'm glad you brought that up. we will pick that up coming up. first, we are also going to look at what president obama is doing, mixing in basically a dose of attacks on governor romney and the ...