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This brings me to the topic of todays proceedings. I would like to recap my recollection of the timeline in which these events played out. I testified about all of this at length in my deposition. In july, i became aware of a hold being placed on obligation of the State Departments military financing or fmf and dods usai fund. In meetings i heard the president directed the Office Of Management And Budget to hold the funds because of his concern for corruption in ukraine. Let me say at the outset i have never discussed this or any other matter with the president and never heard directly from hi...

Were you ever able to get a reason why that hold was on? did you ever get a reason? >> no, ma'am. the only thing i ever heard about it, this is again second, third hand, was that the president was concerned about corruption. but that was all i ever heard. >> so would you -- were you ever provided any additional information about the reason for the hold? >> no, ma'am. >> i thank you and yield the balls of my time to the chairman. >> i thank the gentle woman. my authorities, mr. hale, isn't it common to hold aid and you said it's not unusual. would you agree it's unusual to lever va leverage a f...