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>> here's the thing. the reason that the drama seems so high and the reason that people are now going at each other in the public spotlight is everyone understands, they are now all collectively pursuing a doomed strategy. i mean, is that realization dawning on everyone? >> that's exactly right. there's really a strange thing happening within the republican party. we saw in the summer, senator ted cruz went on a nine-city tour with heritage foundation, with heritage action, stoking activists. telling activists that de-funding is a possibility. it got so big in the conservative movement, as an ...

Created a change on -- >> i mean with this op ed. >> on the battle field. that's why i think they began to move this direction. he's trying to maximize his leverage. he's trying to get the american people to ultimately be further divided, and in doing so have a stronger leverage point through his foreign minister in these negotiations. but i think the american people when they read that will reject it wholeheartedly. he may have an opposite result as the result of his op ed. >> i am sure the holy father has moved putin at various other times. >> i want to get your response to some of the claim...

Mean the fun girl in high school. i don't know. >> i would love to know who that text was from. anyway, kelly -- >> that was neither dirty nor fun. >> you're fun, kelly. >> kelly, as i was saying, let's say currents national mood holds even after the president's speech tonight that the polls are against action in syria, he doesn't have the votes in the house that you have been stew dig, where does that leave the president of the united states? if he doesn't get either of those groups, doesn't get the authorization to take the action he wants to, you set this up as a great moral crisis can he w...

Allegedly. the question is, how do you basically punish president bashar al assad? i would argue that we, the united states of america, should use this particular heightened moment of threat to try to engineer a diplomatic settlement, to try to ease bashar al assad out of power, to convince the russians and the chinese and the world community it's in their interest that assad basically is out of this particular power. this is really the right way to go. ironically, american policymakers, as you well know, even john kerry after he made the case for intervention against bashar al assad, he concl...

One guy. >> the power of the anecdotal runs both ways. >> i understand. but the reality is that guy who is getting $200, if that's going to be the leverage point to deny this woman the the benefits to physical therapy, the republicans are going to have a problem. and they are feeling this. they are feeling this. >> and a more considered thing, though, social security disability has exploded because people have learned how to play the game. there are tragic, horrible stories and many, many millions of people who deserve it, but there are also people who exploit every social system -- >> there's...