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Nancy and her big donors in wine country that people working on farms, grapes, will have easy access in? talks have completely broken down and 800,000 people who aren't getting paid, many of whom are saying please don't make me a pawn, are exactly that. >> we can drop that at this point. talks have broken down. there is nothing happening between the major parties on here. i hate to sound so bleak about this. this is the reality where we are. the two parties are not speaking to each other. you had the vice president and jared kushner on capitol hill late last night meeting only with fellow repu...

And bored ader securities. to my friends on the republican side, there's going to be some things that the democrats want. >> so the democrats say we did offer a compromise, $1.3 billion in border security, there's our compromi compromise. where's yours, white house? >> you have to ask the white house there. look, i've worked the border. there has to be some wall in other areas. it doesn't have to be sea to shining sea, and then there has to be technology. regardless of what you think is being argued on this stuff, both sides have got to come together and figure a way out of this because we sit...

Democrats, you're the problem because the problem is it's everybody's fault. this was started years ago where we start using these stupid shutdown leverage points to try to get our way because we can't give the other side any kind of a win. if we -- i get that there's issues that are like the holy grail out here and fight for those. but there are also issues that are real easy to solve and immigration is one of them. but we're stuck here with we can't give the other side a win because it will help us in the next election. it's frustrating. >> i want to talk to you about syria which is an issue...

Point out this could last a very long time. the president has since changed his view in a video that was tweeted out earlier this evening. the president said i hope that this shutdown will not last long, but right now nobody knows how you get to a solution on this. again, somebody's got to back off one of their demands. right now signs point to the president needing to do that given where the leverage points are. we'll see how this goes over the next couple of days. logistically, and you know this, the impact of a weekend shutdown just practically, that has less of a real person impact on thos...

Has been funded. this is not going to affect veterans. this is not going to affect our military. it's not going to affect health and human services. the leverage points are different here and what this comes down to his democrats and even republicans want to put their own constituents, their own tax payers come in the u.s. about the interest of illegal aliens. leland: is that a yes or no? >> absolutely. there is no better time than to show the country and to show the world that we are a country of laws and that we want our laws respected. i don't think that's too much to ask. it's pretty reaso...