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Appealing about him. you described a subset frame as well as any could. the art of the deal if you read the book, this is what he does. he tries to find leverage points and found them with some great success and sometimes not great success but majority successful in his business life. he's doing it here. almost like criticism we saw last week around the carrier deal. some of my former colleagues and every democratic friends say it's not a sustainable approach but if you're a hard working american whose job could be shipped overseas and you see the president make a call, they are awakened to th...

Got here a quarter of a century ago. >> i get your point that a low-level intern makes all the bad decisions, and speaking as a low-level person on the hill i get the point. it seems like the opposite to get your kids involved in stuff. i know people who have no leverage points, the one thing they're going to worry about is their kids. >> it's not a blind trust if your kids run it. when he was running, he never said he would divest his assets. he said i'll put it in a blind trust run by my children, which was always a nonsense statement, but it was always out there. are voters going to be mad ...

With the democrats in urging mr. trump not to do this. you know, i've noticed, ari, when he's pushed back, he responds. grounds. today he said oh, maybe i won't when he wanted a top secret clearances for his kids in the transition, there was criticism. he said oh, it was a low-level intern. we've been hearing about that same low-level intern in washington, d.c. ever since i got here a quarter of a century ago. low-level intern makes all the bad decisions, and speaking as a low-level person on the hill i get the point. it seems like the opposite to get your kids involved in stuff. i know people...

With us now jack lew. yesterday he shared a security counsel meeting which resulted it was a rare moment of international unity. the u.s. and russia sponsored a resolution in dozens of nations. it was a unanimous vote in the security council. and it put isil in a class that no country, no force, no organization should want to be in, that the world was saying anyone who is connected to you in any way, directly or indirectly, can be sanctioned for any kind of support. >> what are the key leverage points? >> the key leverage points are getting the whole world together to make that statement. we h...

Their side of this agreement and i just haven't seen any indication from their side that's actually what they whatnot to do. seems to me like they just wantvs-m to play the middle. >> in the absence of this agreement, should talks break down there aren't sanctions. we can continue to put sanctions into place but they're no good without russia and china are they? >> well, russia and china are a special case but we become get the rest of europe on board. the fact is that the global oil markets are denominated in u.s. dollar, and so we still have a lot of power and control over whether or not ira...