mayo dissented from the court s holding here. they ve dodged the larger question. what he s talking about is that the oral argument there was a question from justice kennedy who wrote the opinion here about a comment made by a member of the colorado human rights mmison. co iofhose states thats have has that has hey human rights law and on that basis they said the baker has to bake the cake for the same-sex couple. what justice kennedy says is that comment by that member of the colorado human rights commission is evidence of hostility to his religious views. so for that reason, and that reason only, the baker gets a win here. but it doesn t say anything about the larger issue. and let me just read briefly from the conclusion of the opinion. great. reporter: he says. the outcome of cases like this in other circumstances has to wait for further elaboration in ourts and then here s the key part, all in the context of recognizing that these disputes
obviously, to celebrate his baby s wife. his wife decided his fellow soldiers, brothers, could stand in his place. when they all came home, on the day christian was born, they came to meet with the family and stand in for their fallen brother. unbelievable photo. really grabs you. courtesy op pinehurst photograp photography, who took this picture of christian and the brothers of chris , his dad. thinking of the harris family today and every day. we d love to hear your thoughts on facebook, twitter, snapchat, and instagram. i will see you tonight on nbc nightly news with lester holt, covering much more about the president s pardon power, and whether that extends to donald trump himself. rudy giuliani making the controversial comments over the weekend. the question now, what happens over on capitol hill just down the street from the view behind me. you know lawmakers will be asked. that s it for this hour of msnbc live. now, more news with ali velshi
that was sort of thinking behind the questioning. and, again, you saw the president s response there. yeah. okay. craig, i know you re going to be showing more of this discussion coming up in ce of hours right here on msnbc on your show at 1:00 eastern. i will be looking forward to that in a few hours right here on msnbc. it s always a pleasure to have you on. i want to go to jonathan and shannon who were watching that interview here on set. i know had you seen pieces of it before. on nan were you ve cover jona covered the clintons for a long time. this was combative there? a very tense moment watching it, watching the former president of the united states try to make craig feel ashamed about the question that he asked rather than the former president feeling ashamed for the affair that he had or for the power dynamic between him and monica lewsinsky, now the fact that he went out and lied to the
client and keep his client out of legal jeopardy. if he says my client can t be subpoenaed, we ll fight a subpoena, he s going to make that argument. he s not the legal scholar we should be listening to at this moment. doesn t it go t the 90 reporters were trying to ask conway, if the pre nothing wrong, if he didn t obstruct justice, if he didn t do anything illegal, what does he need to talk about pardons for and potential indictments? rudy giuliani gets asked about it, but the president of the united states tweets about it on his own. it invites the continued questions. the other thing, i don t know how you read this, but i think rudy giuliani is making the argument to prerump about why he should not pardon himself. when he s on television talk about how impeachment could ensue, i don t think that s because necessarily rudy giuliani needs to tell us that. i think he s making the argument to the president who might want to just pardon himself and get rid of all of this. m not enti
too. you do the interview, the camera is shut off, then what? the president really wanted to make sure that i understood that he felt like the standards had changed in our society since 1998, the way that we view power , the y that we even view sexual relationships in the workplace. those are standards that have changed. those are standards that should have changed, he said. but he said he wanted to make sure that i understand the facts of his case were such that they made it it makes it very different from a lot of the high-profile cases that we have been covering here over the last year as a result of the me too movement. those are two points that the president really wanted to make sure that i understood. we should also note that the lewsinsky question that we asked, we asked about that op-ed that she pinned in vanity fair just a couple months ago. in that op-ed she indicated that she had ptsd as a result of being aus tra sized and being outed.