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With it. >> tucker: no. again, you're skirting the point i'm making, which this bill criminalizes speech. if you use the wrong word, you can be put in jail. that is grotesque. and i understand that you're enthusiastic about expanding rights for lgbt elders. okay? but why in the world would you as an american who once wore the uniform support a bill that would criminalize speech? because elder abuse is inherently wrong. i will read the bill -- >> tucker: slow down. speech is not abuse. >> no. i'm talking about abuse. this -- understand this. misusing someone's pronoun is abuse. we see all the t...

Again, you're skirting the point i'm making, which this bill criminalizes speech. if you use the wrong word, you can be put in jail. that is grotesque. and i understand that you're enthusiastic about expanding rights for lgbt elders. okay? but why in the world would you as an american who once wore the uniform support a bill that would criminalize speech? because elder abuse is inherently wrong. i will read the bill -- >> tucker: slow down. speech is not abuse. >> no. i'm talking about abuse. this -- understand this. misusing someone's pronoun is abuse. we see all the team people do this as a ...

Says there was a 2011 survey that is a bit dated. it showed that there were 6,456 respondents and 28% of those suffered harassment from medical providers. 19 -- these are lgbt elders. they had been denied care. so that necessitated this bill. let's be fair that i think you're cherry picking because this bill is not just about trans-gender use of pronounces and all of that. it's about all of lgbt righting included in the patient's bill of rights. >> tucker: and i'm sure there's lots of things i wouldn't agree with in the bill. to be totally clear, you should call people what they want to be cal...

What i found out in the bill, it says there was a 2011 survey that is a bit dated. it showed that there were 6,456 respondents and 28% of those suffered harassment from medical providers. 19 -- these are lgbt elders. they had been denied care. so that necessitated this bill. let's be fair that i think you're cherry picking because this bill is not just about trans-gender use of pronounces and all of that. it's about all of lgbt righting included in the patient's bill of rights. >> tucker: and i'm sure there's lots of things i wouldn't agree with in the bill. to be totally clear, you should cal...