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Credible, they had should be concerned. and we should be digging into that. the second group isrt certainly those that may be -- may have been in congress. you hear some of the statements they are making that may have information and known all along and have been attempting to distract us from investigating thisis issue. >> tucker: so how likely is it do you think that american national security would be damaged if this information was declassified? that's what jim clapper was telling us. you've heard members of congress say that. is that a plausible concern? >> well, setting aside the schizop...

Further the propaganda against the mueller investigation. >> tucker: politicizing the justice department m is what they're concerned about. politicizing the justice department didn't seem to be a main concern when fbi agents spied on and then slandered carter page an entirely innocent american citizen. when another two fbi agents were caught talking about an insurance policy against trump becoming president, and then promising to stop him, that wasn't politicizing the justice b department either, according to them. neither was the fired head of the fbi sleeking to the political law professor t...

Intelligence agencies, not just one that, in fact, russia had aggressively sought to interfere and succeeded in interfering in the 2016 election. >> tucker: that's the same jim clapper assured us under oath oh the liar jim clapper. >> saying that but i don'tin think that impugns clapper's integrity over all. >> tucker: it raises significant questions. look, maybe he is right. >> it's not just clapper. it's all of these people. i have respect for our intelligence community. i think they do a terrific f job and i don't think they have any political motive but you suggest that somehow they are pa...

Russia. how many troops should we send to moscow would you say? more or fewer than napoleon sent? >> it's a different kind. the kind of war being conducted against us is obviously a cyber war type of attack. i think there is not much debate about it. i saw today when our new trump administration nominee to be ambassador to russia said without a doubt they tried to interfere in our election not much debate >> not much debate about it we are taking this all on faith intelligence agency from unseen people with agendas we don't know much about. we've seen this before inpl conflicts throughout amer...