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Has been what they say, an abdication of the united states on the world stage. >> somalia or gadhafi probably doesn't agree with that assessment, for he wasn't around he probably would not agree with that assessment. obviously we helped put together and lay the groundwork for liberating libya. when it comes to egypt, i think had it not been for the leadership we showed, you might have seen a different outcome there. but also, understanding that we do nobody a service when we leap before we look. >> joining me now, msnbc political analyst, bloomberg view columnist, jonathan alter. great to have...

>> somalia or gadhafi probably doesn't agree with that assessment, for he wasn't around he probably would not agree with that assessment. obviously we helped put together and lay the groundwork for liberating libya. when it comes to egypt, i think had it not been for the leadership we showed, you might have seen a different outcome there. but also, understanding that we do nobody a service when we leap before we look. >> joining me now, msnbc political analyst, bloomberg view columnist, jonathan alter. great to have you with us. thank you, jonathan. a rare interview, a rare occasion needs spec...

Has been what they say, an abdication of the united states on the world stage. >> somalia or gadhafi probably doesn't agree with that assessment, for he wasn't around he probably would not agree with that assessment. obviously we helped put together and lay the groundwork for liberating libya. when it comes to egypt, i think had it not been for the leadership we showed, you might have seen a different outcome there. but also, understanding that we do nobody a service when we leap before we look. >> joining me now, msnbc political analyst, bloomberg view columnist, jonathan alter. great to have...

>> well he was forced out of power in tripoli. getting him was a long process of liberating libya. this is an important step whether he was captured or killed. the mere fact that they managed to take over his hometown indicates that libya is once again beginning to be whole. there are now some very small pockets but the abilityer of them to hold out much longer i think will be very difficult. this is the kind of psychological moment where the libyan people will begin to peel they can move ahead. >> steve, this morning we heard reports that the libyan transitional forces felt they had taken con...