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Be on the happy hour stage, the earlier debate because he has been playing on the main stage pr all of these months. and they are afraid he could never come back from that. we do know there's an example of somebody coming back, chris christie at one point was polling so low that he was on the earlier debate stage and now he's back in prime time. what rand paul is trying to do is opt out and use it to gin up his libertarian base that he has been able to in the past before this presidential campaign use to say, look, it's the party and the media out to get us and the people who are kind of outsi...

Important values that will be strong in this country. i think there are flash points. and we saw one in these episodes in arkansas and indiana. >> red and blue america but also stoking again the debate within the republican party between the evangelical base and the establishment chamber of commerce. we've seen it on gay rights and we'll see it on immigration. are we going to have a primary season that is defined by the same fights again? >> i think it will be a huge factor in the primary. look, i think that the business community is basically following the national consensus on these kinds of...

Degree because they're both tea party guys. he has his dad's libertarian base. ted cruz has become a pariah to the republican establishment. >> i think that's right. you've seen that from rand paul to a certain extent. you've seen it from marco rubio who gave a big speech yesterday in front of a google crowd. it's all been reset in the post christie area and also with this ukraine debate coming up. >> i think it's a win-win for both of them. rand gets to introduce himself as a more palatable option. you two stay put. zach does this funny web series called funny or die. here we go. the presid...