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Not syria. >> one of the things about libya and i have gone back and forth on this about the libya intervention. when looking at syria, the problems in libya, which is, you know, militant groups and militias that have a lot of weapons and bulk that's happening and power vacuum that happens in our environment, to the extent you talked them up to the american intervention is fair. you now have syria going on. you are running this experiment in parallel. we are not going to intervene in syria the way we did in libya. you are going to see the same set of problems. you see al qaeda jihad on the ris...

There's troubling evidence that he is setting up his own sort of secret police. so it's better, but it's by no means a healthy democracy. >> and the maliki government is the most stable that has been in the post war period, i would say, and there's often be a quick succession. there's a sense that democracy in iraq is tending towards a democracy in name only. is that something you feel is the case? >> i think that's fair. he is a less beautiful strong man that saddam hussein was. >> p.j., when you talk about libya and the lessons learned there, when the libya intervention was on the table, and...

Draw from iraq and bring to the table in thinking about the intervention in libya? >> it's what secretary clinton calls strategic patience. there's criticism in this country that we did not move into libya fast enough, but the president said let's get a strong consensus within the region that intervention is necessary, and let's get legality, and let's make sure that we are in support of indinlg nus political forces in libya that are now in control of the country. i think that kind of patience was possible in 2003. the rush to war in my view was the great lesson from iraq that this idea of a m...

Learn more at anga.us. my story of the week, the obama doctrine. if i could send myself back in tinl to tell the 2008 version and a few years hence, barack obama would announce a total withdraw of u.s. forces, the reaction of the 2008 version of me would be very glad but also unsurprised. that's the whole point of electing this guy, right? if you had told the 2008 version of me that barack obama would also oversee a nay cointervention in another country resulting in regime change i would have been pretty darn incredulous. the libya intervention was in many ways also the inverse together with...

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