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We have seen activity. we have seen roads getting cleared, wires going back up. 911 is back up and running. we have communications back up and running in new orleans. the bigger issue for life and safety is places like grand isle, louisiana, there are people apparently. i have done a hurricane there, i am surprised people stayed, that island is washed over every time there's a hurricane. south of us, there are people with rising waters and west of us in some areas. there are people still trapped. in new orleans, that has not happened. we have not had levee breaches. that's the good part. they'...

Figures over the former president's behavior? and then, this? >> the u.s. bishops conference was very vocal about the issue of refugees and migrants. and so, they were -- you know, they were in opposition to president trump when he was in office. i think the difficulty is the fact that there are so many issues that one could look at, in terms of catholic teaching. pope francis said, you know, in addition to the lives of the unborn, equally sacred, are the lives of those who are born, the poor, refugees, and migrants. and so, unfortunately, so much of the discussion has focused almost solely on...

So they were in opposition to president trump when he was in office. i think the difficulty is the fact that there are so many issues that one could look at in terms of catholic teaching. pope francis said, you know, in addition to the lives of the unborn equally sacred are the poor and refugees and migrants so unfortunately, so much of the discussion focused almost solely on abortion that it's very hard for people to get away from the idea this is in a sense the only issue and really unfair to just focus on one single issue as if that is the only -- even the only life issue we're supposed to ...

Is about money because they raised money off of -- off the judge issue, off the life issue, and all those things could be great causes. but, you know, they want to have this issue and trump has given them judges. but what they're saying is that the ends don't just fight means. and this president has demonstrated beyond doubt now, according to many people in chrissian knit "christianity today" that his character and moral behavior is not suited to be president. and the most important thing, i think, is that for christians when you uphold trump as some sort of pair goragon or virtue, know they'r...

The leaders in the life movement for generations now which is the susan b. anthony list or the right to life groups, they will tell you he is the most catholic president they've ever seen, the most catholic administration's while he is not catholic, they will tell you. >> martha: issues that have been very important to catholics into evangelicals as well, what do you think about that? >> i completely disagree with it. i went to catholic grammar school, sending them to catholic school, catholic college and my mother worked catholic school teachers of religion was a very strong part of their liv...