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There's no lifetime maximums, yada, yada, but a tiny percentage of voters are in there. >> but if we're dealing with a candidate who had any grasp of public policy or the idea of how to talk to voters 13 days before an election, we might see someone who could frame -- >> could make that argument. >> very clearly. this is a horrible day for sort of obamacare and ergo hillary clinton. trump can't help but make everything either, a, about himself or he doesn't much knew, know about obama, the language of this man is deplorable. he didn't seize the opportunity to break it down to the public. every...

Question, no, nobody asked the president about that, but we know there was some frustration at the beginning, but we also know that sign-ups are soaring now. and that it's only up from here. there's 60,000 people, i think he said, signed up yesterday on the website. >> you believe that in your heart, that it's only getting better from here? you believe that? >> i do. i do, absolutely. >> and why is that? >> well, we've been gathering stories at moms rising from moms all across the country, and initially, there was a little bit of frustration, but now the stories coming into us are from moms an...

Get that insurance through their employers, it's going to cost those employers more. that is likely going to be passed on to you. that's something to keep in mind for kids as they graduate from college, as they are looking for a job, et cetera. the parents may bear the burden on that one. the next one is, there will be no more limits, no more lifetime maximums. what this is, is typically now your company caps off the amount of health care insurance that they're going to give you at $1 million or $2 million. most of us don't need that. however, if you have a catastrophic accident, a serious dis...

>> yeah, thank you. glad to be here. >> mark, what is the net effect of the health reform that is being discussed right now that is likely to pass, or could pass, this weekend on this group that we're talking about? this group that works for small businesses, who have a bigger stake, they pay a bigger part of their premium, what's the net effect likely to be? >> well, as one of your associates pointed out earlier, one of the interviews you were having earlier pointed out, it's -- it will take a while for it to have an impact, but certainly there's some things that will hit right away. the mand...

See increases, we know that, because those increases are tied to the cost of health care, but it's not clear that my insurance is going to go up as much as someone who works for a smaller company? >> yeah. and smaller companies typically have -- are more likely to have limits on annual maximum annual benefit maximums or lifetime maximums. a let of the larger employers the lifetime maximums are a lot larger and they may not have limits on annual benefits or so. >> the 160 million that are covered by the fortune 500 companies, the 20/80 split between employers and employees, how many other ameri...