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"the late shift." >> he doesn't want to be in the mix of, this is my point of view and i'm pounding away at the president. he knows it's not his strength. he doesn't want to do it. >> i hope they're going to understand -- >> just months before the election, jimmy fallon was vilified for being too soft on trump. his ratings suffered. >> yes! >> was interviewing trump and playing with him a big deal? was that actually a big deal? >> giovanni russonello is a culture reporter for "the new york times". >> i think he's acknowledged since then that, yes, it was a huge deal and that he was surprised b...

>> bill carter is the author of "the late shift." >> he doesn't want to be in the mix of, this is my point of view and i'm pounding away at the president. he knows it's not his strength. he doesn't want to do it. >> i hope they're going to understand -- >> just months before the election, jimmy fallon was vilified for being too soft on trump. his ratings suffered. >> yes! >> was interviewing trump and playing with him a big deal? was that actually a big deal? >> giovanni russonello is a culture reporter for "the new york times." >> i think he's acknowledged since then that, yes, it was a huge ...

>> he doesn't want to be in the mix of, this is my point of view and i'm pounding away at the president. he knows it's not his strength. he doesn't want to do it. >> i hope they're going to understand -- >> just months before the election, jimmy fallon was vilified for being too soft on trump. his ratings suffered. >> yes! >> was interviewing trump and playing with him a big deal? was that actually a big deal? >> giovanni russonello is a culture reporter for "the new york times". >> i think he's acknowledged since then that, yes, it was a huge deal and that he was surprised by the kind of blow...

>> bill carter is the author of the late shift. >> he doesn't want to be in the mix of this is my point of view and i'm pounding away at the president. he knows it's not his strength. >> i hope they're going to understand. >> just months before the election, jimmy fallon wasvilleified for being too soft on trump. his ratings suffered. [ cheers ] >> yes! ♪ >> was interviewing trump and playing with him a big deal? >> he is a cultural reporter for the zblorkts i think he's acknowledged since then, that, yes, it was a huge deal and he was surprised by the blowback he got but he has to reckon wi...