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I need to feel that effect. i'm not ready to leave jail. i'm not ready for home detention. i'm not ready to leave this facility right now at all. i would get right back into it and not care. >> now, instead of being strung out on the streets, he's up at dawn to work on the ranch. >> i grew up on a horse farm, so i have some understanding making sure you're not around the back end and stuff like that. just awareness comes with just being around them. >> there's a good way and a bad way. the chances of being kicked are higher, for sure. >> like gnash, gary is also an

>> like gnash, gary is also an ab-109 inmate. he's here for selling high-capacity magazines and rifles. carey has been in the 5-month-old horse program since inception. and plays a sort of big brother role to dake. >> everybody's instructing everybody as they go along. if i've got a guy that's going to be with me for a long time, i can mold him and then i can pass that onto, okay, you want to take these guys and show them the basics that you've already learned and then i can move on to the other guys and show them a little more advanced. >> the other thing that joe has taught us, i've been try...