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Jury, a prosecutor like mueller or one of his chief deputies sits down with this group of citizens in a federal courthouse in washington or wherever they're impaneled. they develop two, three days a week sometimes a relationship. they bring evidence and witnesses before the grand jury. take it from there. >> and then it's time for the grand jury to return a true bill, to return an indictment and essentially the prosecutor lays out the proposed charges, puts them down on paper and the grand jury has to vote. and if the majority of the grand jury finds that there is probable cause to believe tha...

With gocentral from godaddy. welcome back. our discussion continues. no shortage of topics as we cover this breaking news. our panel still with us. ken dilanian, matt miller, jeremy bash. hey, ken, what did we learn today about that trump tower meeting with the russian operative and donald trump jr.? >> brian, "the new york times" came out with some additional reporting that confirmed what nbc had reported in september when we interviewed her, which is that she was in contact with a russian prosecutor in moscow who has close ties with vladimir putin about her talking points that she brought ...

Special counsel robert mueller's investigation? >> absolutely. it's pretty much a cynical ploy by republicans and trump administration and allies including the mercer family koch brothers and whoever funds the outside groups to discredit a professional like mueller who has been been getting closer and closer to the truth. there's been other story that have come out, "new york times" reporting that the russian lawyer who came to talk about adoptions had coordinated talks with high government officials at the kremlin. there's a lot more coming out and i think this is a coordinated attack because...

As for wearing wires, i think your instinct is right ari, mostly paranoia, goes to show the divisions they have. that is exactly what prosecutor like mueller wants to happen, what a prosecutor wants to encourage and exploit, divisions amongst folks their looking at. that's what generates cooperation and conflicts and people pointing fingers. that's what mueller wants. >> and then the growth. if you have kids and put the little mark on the wall to see how they grow. >> progress. >> without the mark they grow so fast you don't realize it. gradual. >> right. >> donald trump has grown in one way, ...

Clean elections. hillary clinton on her book tour asked interesting query about all of this. take a listen. >> would you completely rule out questioning the legitimacy of this election if we learned that the russian interference in the election is even deeper than we know how. >> no. i would not. >> not rule it out. >> no i wouldn't rule it out. >> would you rule it out? and do you think this is an area where the results of the mueller investigation could ultimately beyond the criminal dimension raise questions about the outcome of the election and current government or would you rule it snoou...