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Looks like ray washburn would be a fabulous choice in. and then move out shulkin. put perry in to shulkin's role at v.a. like shulkin was out there, you know, having fun in europe. what was that? he's a obama holdover. >> axios is reporting they don't know which end is up. the problem is who he is hiring. he's hiring a foreign agent to be his campaign adviser. if you google them, that's the problem -- >> laura: who are you talking about? >> paul manafort and mike flynn. that's the problem. who he brought in and how he's dismissing people -- >> laura: i'm sorry, byron. i think that it would be ...

Out. move rick perry out. looks like ray washburn would be a fabulous choice in. and then move out shulkin. put perry in to shulkin's role at v.a. like shulkin was out there, you know, having fun in europe. what was that? he's a obama holdover. >> axios is reporting they don't know which end is up. the problem is who he is hiring. he's hiring a foreign agent to be his campaign adviser. if you google them, that's the problem -- >> laura: who are you talking about? >> paul manafort and mike flynn. that's the problem. who he brought in and how he's dismissing people -- >> laura: i'm sorry, byron....