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To be heard and if they hear what you have to say, pretty sound ideas. thank you. thank you, neil. nice talking to you. neil: we continue to watch the hong kong protests. these could escalate. the big issue, if we can't trust the chinese to hold back, what can we trust them on trade? and how after this. my experience with usaa has been excellent. they really appreciate the military family and it really shows. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed...

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Detroit to do this, urban issues and the road to the white house will go through the heartland of america. the protest. >> it would not be like i heard very little about urban tiananmen square. >> it was a different china, in hong kong, different from beijing but if the communist issues or the heartland. you were talking trade a few minutes ago. i think donald trump won in 2016 party believes its existence is threatened they are capable of on trade. you did not have any real doing anything but these protesters are capable of doing pragmatic discussion. anything to provoke pla troops manufactur...

More than a capitalist juggernaut as i said, and will respond as such. >> things are dinner from 30 years ago. their own wealth and success might make it hard to act that way. and what the people are not going to put up with anymore. and like protests here. if the rest of the country was run like hong kong, we wouldn't be in a trade war. i'm wondering if that made the people to revolt. it's like they're weaker now, china. you can't get away with the way you behaved 20, 30 years. in hong kong they can use facebook and-- >> you can't in chinaments and that element makes it difficult to do a tian...