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1940s? >> i'm afraid to a great extent that's not to say it isn't inevitable. history moves in different ways. i do think it is unraveling. i do think the saddest part of it is the lack of leadership. leadership beyond simple nationalistic leadership. leadership that moves beyond isolationism. leadership that accepts a larger vision for the world. and eventually i think that the world we're seeing which is rather fragmented and inward looking in terms of different countries, i think ultimately we will move back to a more fdr-like vision. >> nigel hamilton, always a pleasure.

History moves in different ways. i do think it is unraveling. i do think that the saddest part of it is the lack of leadership. leadership beyond simple, nationalistic leadership. leadership that moves beyond isolationism. leadership that accepts a larger vision for the world. -- but eventually, i think that it -- the world that we're seeing, which is rather fragmented and inward looking, in terms of different countries, i think ultimately, we will move back to a more fdr-like vision. >> nigel hamilton, always a pleasure. >> thank you. >> and we will be back. s comes miracle-gro performance or...

British before he died. >> the vision -- the world we have now, you know, was created after 1945. sometimes people call it the liberal international order, a kind of, you know, free markets, free trade, rules, regulations, international organizations like the u.n., the world bank. you make the case that this was all fundamentally fdr's idea. >> oh, this was his vision, which he'd had since 1942. >> finally, when you look at the way things are going today, where there is a certain amount of unraveling of this liberal international order, do you think to yourself, you are watching tun raveling o...

Function mentally as well as physically, probably only two or three hours a day. yet he forced himself to sit at that table, he wanted to get certain things accepted by the russians and the british before he died. >> the vision, the will we have now created after 1945, sometimes people call at any time liberal international order, a kind o free markets, free trade rules, regulations, international organizations like the u.n., the world bank, you make the case that this was all fundamentally fdr's idea. >> oh, this was his vision, which he had since 1942. >> finally, when you look at the way th...

If they're too big to fail, they're too big to exist. that means they have too much influence on wall street as well as in the white house. he needs to have a kingian vision. a martin luther king like vision. not just left or right. just real moral, ethical and wrestling with it. >> we have to leave it there. >> i see him still too tied to wall street even given the pop list rhetoric. i refuse to satisfy, be satisfied with dhoots are better than republicans. that's like someone who is just better than me singh in the shower. so what? >> dr. cornel west, we're up on time. always great you have ...