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Makes clear that he believes the russian investigation is very real and very warranted. he calls trump jr. and kushner quote treasonous for that 2016 trump tower meeting with russians. and he believes the special counsel is now focusing on the possibility of money laundering by the trump organization. not a hoax, not a witch hunt, not fake news says bannon, in fact, very much the contrary. and that is very real news. we're joined tonight by our panel and i want to start with you josh green. you're the author of the book "devil's bargain," which dives into the inside story of this relationship ...

Interview. mueller doesn't seem to respect it in any way, shape, or form, nor should he, because it provides context, motive, opportunity, all sorts of things the prosecutors look at. >> these are two reporting lines that a number of us who have been working this story have been looking and asking questions about, the money laundering line and the trump tower meeting. and here have you steve bannon raising both of those as substantial lines of inquiry. >> right it does sort of raise the question because bannon says he hasn't been interviewed by mueller so it raises the question especially in l...

Recalled, before his finger is pulling down on his lip and his eyes are rolling back in his head. former deputy chief of staff katey walsh is quoted as saying that mr. trump's leadership style is like trying to figure out what a child wants. >> the book reportedly claims that the president's long time friend thomas berrick described him to another friend this way. he's not only crazy, he's stupid. both walsh and berrick deny they said those quotes that we mentioned. author michael wolff writes that mr. trump never expected or wanted to win the election. and most everyone in his campaign agreed...

>> it's interesting to me, too, i'm wondering about the sources in this book, not questioning his reporting. i'm saying there a lot of competing factions within this white house. some of whom are giving information to undercut people in the white house. i wonder to what extent that some people say the bannon wing did not like the jared kushner wing very much and how much bannon, some of the things he's feeding there, perhaps may have been done to make ivanka trump not look as good. >> i think the thing about covering the trump white house has been the fact that you can't get one story. every t...

And, look, i mean, this, again, was an authorized book. this book was -- >> on the record statements. >> somebody -- yeah, with somebody who was repeatedly brought into the white house, ushered in, gave him a pass and allowed him to wander around the west wing. so it's an account that carries a lot more weight. >> i just wonder how much bannon knows about the russia investigation. don't forget, the don junior meeting took place before bannon came into the campaign, i believe a couple months. i may be off a little bit on that. it seems to me that what we're reading in all of this could be banno...