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>> i hate it when people say that, john. i don't know what's in anybody's heart. all i know is the evidence people show me, what they sahey. i don't know whain my own mother's heart. i'm not a heart reader. people show you who they are. you should believe them. it walks like a racist bigot, it talks like a racist bigot. it promotes racist bigot things like the confederate flag and hangs out with racist people, what does that mean? it means they're a bigot. >> it also means trump fired him in october of 2016. he got fired. >> but trump endorsed him. he just endorsed him, john. he's his candidat...

>> the president complains about news organizations that challenge him. today'eet it was dife cited news organizations as the country's biggest enemy. what's your tion to that? >> well, there'sbeen tension with every pdent. i sometimes think that we underestimate trump but that's my opinion. i always like to tack the other way, i guess. but it seems to me the news media, i always view disliking tris likcatnip for american audiences, it seems television is doing much better, i'm going to put my ear piece in better, the new york papers and more audience and going after trump is really good news ...

Tunet by 40% of the people, whatever percentage. it just seems to me that at this rate, if i'm watching, yes, trump went to the summit not knowing much about it and, yes, he doesn't read anything and i used to watch his golf show. he's famous for -- he's been in public life for 15, 20 years. >> longer. >> well, yeah, m >> since the 80s, right? >> an outside chance with all the tweets and other stuff, he just may have some idea what he's doing. he's keeping it sed on him, good, baor otherwise, it keeps it on him. i don't know if we're caught up maybe h doing better at running. he did get rid of...