MSNBC Andrea Mitchell Reports September 17, 2019 16:30:00
Trump went outside the chain of command. he went to lewandowski because he was not someone currently serving in the administration, because those people, he tried to get don mcgahn to fire mueller, he was trying to get people who were actually his official advisers to do his dirty work for him and limit sessions and the russia investigation, have sessions unrecuse himself, and they weren't doing it so he went to lewandowski because he was a private citizen and you could keep it sort of on the downlow. that's exactly the time that executive privilege should not apply. he made a choice to go out...
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