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This time than what we might have otherwise been expecting. If the allegations in this indictment are proven Beyond A Reasonable Doubt and a jury convicts some of these crimes, history will not ask, wow, how did america get to the point where they indicted a former president . History instead is going to ask, how did america get to the point where such a person could be elected to the presidency of the United States. Were actions such as these could be carried out from the oval office directed by a person who was elected president by the American People, along with his advisers. This is a grav...

The special coverage. He is of course innocent until Proven Guilty and he will and should mount a robust defense against these charges, and he should be acquitted if he didnt do what he is accused of. But if the allegations made by the Justice Department in this indictment are proven, if the former president did what he is accused of, history is going to ask a different question of this time than what we might have otherwise been expecting. If the allegations in this indictment are proven Beyond A Reasonable Doubt and a jury convict some of these crimes, history will not ask, wow, how did amer...

Electoral votes. okay, then we will need the justice department to tell the state legislatures, yeah, okay those fake electors, and put all those pieces together, eventually can get to trump stay in power after voted out. but the key to, it nothing none of it can happen without force. >> yeah. >> none of it can happen without violence. and january 6th is the linchpin event. it's not a bad side effect of what happened. it was necessary. >> and they make a point of focusing not on trump's inaction, necessarily, as the insurrection unfolded. the fact that he's making calls senators, because he is...

Months to overthrow the results of an election. >> it makes you see it in a more instrumental way. i feel like we all do know these facts, but if you step three away from the trees we have been studying and look at the forest in this way, you see that the normal course of events, the way we've done this for the entire history of ourselves as a republic needed to be disrupted somehow. we really needed to have a disruption -- we needed a way to translate that disruption into the possibility of trump getting more electoral votes than he has. we'll need some fake electoral votes. okay, then we wil...