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Is that they have a chance to essentially shift the focus of their annoyance at the irs from this scandal, the vague word scandal. it's going to take a long time and a lot of effort for them if they are able to to prove what they suspect, which is that this was run out of washington, that the notion of targeting the tea party groups, and instead make the irs soert of their example, exhibit a. >> exhibit a is airing next to you, the line dancing video. >> yeah. that's certainly strong evidence that the irs has more money than it needs, right? >> david, i want to ask you about this though. sarah...

Down. >> everyone, which scandal will be most damaging? >> it might say the nsa although it should be the irs. >> now i want to see greg's answer. i think it's the irs, but the nsa is probably something that is shocking. >> i think you are right about that. when we find out who gave the orders unless it's a lot more. >> i think the irs affects everybody's lives. it will be the one and people set up a night where they go to the nsa. >> i will go with the irs and they need to pay for that line dancing video. who in the republican party do we have to make it cool again to get more voters to vote ...

Gregg: oh, yeah. >> new developments in the scandals rocking the irs at this hour. if "wall street journal" reporting the political profiling didn't originate from cincinnati. workers apparently in shock when higher-ups like lois lerner tried to pin the targeting of conservative groups on them. congressional investigators got the directive from a local manager who said washington wanted it. all this emerging as the households a hearing into the $50 million the irs spent on lavish conferences that we've been telling you about. the agency shelling out your hard earned tax dollars for things like...

This just smells and i hope this committee gets to the bottom of it. >> i have think the i.r.s. needs to fix its labeling machine, we are the for patriots, not occupy oakland. >> personally i wondered who fights the i.r.s.? what would the repe repercussions be? would there even be a home to win. i'm a born free american woman, wife, mother and citizen, and i'm telling my government that you've for 0 gotten your place. jenna: very emotional personal stories yesterday. the i.r.s. is under fire for lavish spending on employee conferences and for videos like the one you're seeing on your screen, a...

I think we are a little unfairly picking on these guys. >> okay. these are employees going a conference and i would give career advice if you go to a conference and asked to participate in a line dancing video, don't do it. you on the other hand have participated in things like this. >> many times when i worked at certain companies, and i hope they are never found. >> that's true. >> the po nie t bob was about to make that $15 million is a drop in the bucket is an argument against big government. by creating a giant bucket, it is a drop. that is the strategy of keeping a government alive. this...