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Environment. you don't have to sell drugs, you don't have to be out here doing this you don't have to be out here doing that but you still get treated as such. therefore, when you get treated unjust as the baltimore city police department is doing, myself included -- >> reporter: let me ask you a question. you, too, mac. whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. >> are you serious? >> reporter: we don't know what happened behind us as we were interviewing frederick. i'm going to ask sarafin -- sarafin is our producer. >> she was standing there and all of a sudden they just rushed. >> reporter: we heard some t...