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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181118:08:14:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181118:08:14:00

Of the car. so, if javier put her there, he could be charged with murder. why not grab javier up that day and say, "okay, your dna and fingerprints were at the scene. we didn't know that until just now. you're going away for murder unless you start talking"? >> well, let's say that we did that and we bring him in and he says, well, yes, my fingerprint was there because i helped her push her car out of the street a week before. or when i was helping her change a tire. i cut my finger and i bled on it. >> reporter: so instead of approaching javier, daron wyatt spent nearly five months carefully ...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181118:08:23:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181118:08:23:00

Tina montelongo, sam's then-wife and javier's friend, wasn't buying it. can you conceive of javier going through with a murder or being involved in it because of his loyalty to sam? >> no. i don't see that. if sam did it, would javi help him just because they're close family? i don't see that. >> reporter: neither did the d.a. who decided there was not enough evidence to file charges. how do you tell mary bennett, "we had javier, but we had to let him go"? >> it was extremely difficult. there was a lot of crying on both sides. >> reporter: daron knew exactly what releasing javier really meant....

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181118:07:53:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181118:07:53:00

Homicide unit. >> so i ended up putting in for that job and being selected. >> reporter: it wasn't long before he cracked open the doors that housed the homicide files. >> and i open the cabinet and i see the torrez case. and i remembered the incident with debbie from about a year earlier. so i pulled it out and i started reading just on free time, just reading it a little bit. >> reporter: by then, the cathy torrez case had been cold for a good three years. >> and essentially no work had been done on it for at least the last two years. >> reporter: from the beginning, police had suspected cat...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181118:08:04:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181118:08:04:00

See in a case like this. >> reporter: which is? >> emotion. he showed more emotion over the contents of a coke can. he picked it up when they left the room and reading the coke can and the ingredients and the number of calories. and at one point he puts that down and picks up a baseball hat he had been wearing, sees dirt and brushes it off and starts swearing about the fact that there's dirt on his hat. >> oh [ bleep ]. >> but he never shows any emotion about the fact that this gal has been brutally murdered, no emotion whatsoever. >> reporter: and that's a big red flag? >> huge. >> reporter: ...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181118:08:35:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181118:08:35:00

But then this happened and -- shoot. >> he doesn't use the word "murder," doesn't say anything like that. it's like, "this happened," as if it's small. it's not that big of a deal, it's not horrendous. he doesn't want it to be horrendous because he did it. >> reporter: tell number three. and then larry caught something else in the interview sam did before cathy's body was found. listen carefully. >> so you went out with her the saturday before the thursday? >> right. >> okay on, and where did you go? >> in other words a week before she was -- she disappeared. >> reporter: did you hear that? >>...