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Think -- i hope he feels he owes us that narrative. i think it would be a great service just to know in some detail what it was like being defense secretary for donald trump. >> book tour might be interesting on this one. nancy, we -- it did not end well between the president and mattis. we played that clip from a couple months ago. but obviously before that the president would be praising him in public, lionizing him, you know, mad dog, he had a term that seemed to resonate a lot with the president. when and how did it go wrong between them? >> well, i think that the president was so enamored...

Defense secretary for donald trump. >> book tour might be interesting on this one. nancy, we -- it did not end well between the president and mattis. we played that clip from a couple months ago. but obviously before that the president would be praising him in public, lionizing him, you know, mad dog, he had a term that seemed to resonate a lot with the president. when and how did it go wrong between them? >> well, i think that the president was so enamored of the idea during the transition of hiring military figures including secretary mattis and general kelly also who originally ran the depa...

Speaking out with his essay, with his book, is there a chance it registers at all with the president? >> with the president, no. absolutely no chance. but does it register more broadly with his readers? he got everyone's attention, i think, with this piece in the "journal." and i like everybody else want to now see what else he has to say about the specifics of his time working for this specific president and what it was like i think -- i hope he feels he owes us that narrative. i think it would be a great service just to know in some detail what it was like being defense secretary for donald ...