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A sort of economic populism. i wonder david mentioning again those rural counties, those rural counties in coal country kentucky they are painted blue tonight. does that have something to do, you think, bevin and medicaid expansion. that b was one of the major pois of contention in his governorship. >> steve, this is a classic. go back to the early history of this state. this is a border state. this is a state you go through the union wars, the harlan county war in southeastern kentucky. now that place is a hugely republican area. even tonight you look at the margins there, you're talking abou...

What donald trump has tried to do. donald trump has spent his presidency trying to take health care away from people. trying to repeal completely obamacare. and so the -- the campaign run against matt bevin in kentucky is the campaign you would run against donald trump nationally. >> it's so hard to tell sometimes, lawrence, because the president talks about how he's going to preserve various things that his government is trying to tyke away at the very same time. you know, he goes out on the stump and talks about preserving medicare, but you look at his budget and it's undercuts marc. he says...

Can see here, we are declaring him -- he's going to win the popular vote here in mississippi. they do something peculiar in mississippi. to become governor you got to win a majority of the popular vote and you got to win a majority of the state legislativeri districts. it's a strange provision you don't have anywhere else. there are 122 state legislative districts. we think basedgi on the voting patterns and the history reeves is going to get somewhere 70, 80, something like that in terms of the districts, he will end up getting that majority and becoming governor but we're not going to know u...

Across the finish line lost. but on the other hand, as he does point out in his tweet, you got to say, five other republicans were on the ballot in kentucky. they all won. four of them won handily. does this say something about the president's political capital do you think or does it say something more about bevin? >> well, you know, it's interesting. the special elections always become these big anecdotal points of argument and it can be a bit overstated. bevin had a lot of trouble before this. that said, this is a 30-point trump state and he couldn't drag the governor, the incumbent, who no...

Against the senate majority leader in his race next year. don't think this is something that can't happen to him. republicans had a great night. won every other constitutional seat except for bevin. they're even saying this is a very specific referendum onth governor bevin and his behavior and leadership style. >> iav think you raise an interesting point there. i'm curious if you can elaborate onif that. i think a lot of people are looking at this race. obviously this was a state that trump won by 30 points in 2016. it's very pro-trump yet you have the republican losing. to what extent -- do y...