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Deductibles for the bronze plan. families 12,700 out of their pocket up front. in michigan, in california. in california $5,000 per person. per family member. >> come on. >> list jernen, i'm not making stuff up. this is before government subsidy. >> so what you get from the white house, eric, is a sense that look, these people who right now are eligible for medicaid are obviously going get in the market and get more people covered that way. then you'll get people covered who are going discover that the current plan they have doesn't cover things like preventative care, well care, check up, mam...

Deductibles for the bronze plan. families 12,700 out of their pocket up front. in michigan, in california. in california $5,000 per person. per family member. >> come on. >> list jernen, i'm not making stuff up. this is before government subsidy. >> so what you get from the white house, eric, is a sense that look, these people who right now are eligible for medicaid are obviously going get in the market and get more people covered that way. then you'll get people covered who are going discover that the current plan they have doesn't cover things like preventative care, well care, check up, mam...