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Consistent with the russian government and with the aims of helping donald trump in the election. what was missing from this report is what the intelligence community, of course, calls sources and metho methods. how do they know this and prove this? take us generally speaking through what the intelligence community has to this point where they say we're confident of this solution? >> it's probably a mix of things, really. probably one signals intelligence. the communications, electronic or otherwise, they might have gleaned from listening posts they have around the globe, including in russia. ...

>> as i said, our efforts have to change their character, but remain steady in their intensity. this is a group that, as you indicated and as i indicated earlier, does show determination to not only fight on the ground in yemen which is what you referred to, but also strike at the united states. it is easier to cooperate if we have the cooperation of the government as was the case in the past. if we don't have a stable government as is the case in the current use other means to protect ourselves and that's what we're doing. >> what other means compensate without u.s. special forces on the grou...

Syria, if you will, jim, this is one of the problems they'll face trying to find out who this potential new suspect, this westerner is. but talk about the challenge for intelligence in trying to track down these suspects even when they've finally been identified. >> it's a big challenge because syria until recently was effectively a black hole for u.s. intelligence agencies. they've done a lot of work in recent months when we've ramped up the coalition against isis, working with partners in the area, jordan, et cetera, to fill the black hole. there's a lot of catch-up to do. because the u.s. w...

What and people like the u.s. will confront a very interesting dilemma there. you were mentioning a case where the soviets shot down a korean airliner. it was near the bearing sea, off an island that's a part of russia. there the u.s. have positive proof of this. our listening posts in japan had actually picked up conversations from the soviet intercepter plane which was trailing the civilian aircraft, picked up the conversations where the pilot asked permission to shoot this plane down, gets permission, we hear the military command call back and say, okay, let it go and the pilot saying, okay...

Russia. there the u.s. have positive proof of this. our listening posts in japan had actually picked up conversations from the soviet intercepter plane which was trailing the civilian aircraft, picked up the conversations where the pilot asked permission to shoot this plane down, gets permission, we hear the military command call back and say, okay, let it go and the pilot saying, okay, mission accomplished. he shot the plane down. we had that evidence. now the question is, you reveal all of your assets, your listening posts in japan in this case. we made that information public right away bef...