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ok so that was a 3 d. lithograph collage obviously look different with the glasses that you had on and it would take you were reading it like a music score very much into the graphic score in a graphic score tradition so it's something i enjoy to do and for this particular set of works the 3 d. there's been so much done with print work and lithography and these things i was trying to figure out a way to pull pull the stuff off the wall without doing the actually pulling it off the wall with theme in your one theme in your work is this idea of synesthesia the right senses bleeding into each other can you hear your pictures i mean the usually i don't have i don't have seizures but i've been working for years through the mel that you've lived in brazil for 7 years while you were there you added some rain

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