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Environment that was hostile to isis. keep in mind that the groups operating in idlib are no friends of isis. but the president in that press conference clarifying that saying that he believed that baghdadi was in idlib province to try and strengthen isis, to try and get isis to have a stronghold in the province but nevertheless, again, three miles from the turkish border, lots of questions. >> yeah, a lot of questions. it's interesting that you bring that part up. i also want to mention senator lindsey graham will be appearing in the white house briefing room so we're going to bring you that ...

With you. i don't know exactly the details of the operation. but i think the president is focusing on the resources that made isis so strong for so long. the caliphate was funded basically by many sources of revenue, but one of the chief sources of revenue was syrian oil. so if you take that off the table, the terrorists in the region in the world are hurt and iran containment makes sense. the iranians would love to get this oil. the russians have shown some desire to go down here and i can't say this now, but i was in the situation room and i'll talk to you later. the president made some firm...

Baghdadi right now is we don't know how it is going to may out. evelin, your former guest mentioned the founder of isis of al-qaida in europe. he was assassinated during the bush's administration in 2006. on my way on the studio, i lo looked up what bush did during the time. 13 years later, we are still fighting on the war in terror. there is a worry now that you may see a merger between isis and al-qaida. these two groups had been in each other's throats since 2013 and 2014. we don't know how it is going to fly out. they say when a terrorist leader is killed, it could setback a group over the...

Changed dramatically into something else that is just a terrorist organization now. it was as a result of the decision to become a caliphate. and, therefore, to defend terrain which they couldn't possibly do. >> let's talk -- there's a couple of things i want to cover with you. i want to talk about the significance of the killing of baghdadi. what that does to an organization like isis that has already been weakened, and we have reported over and over again, it is not completely obliterated despite the fact the president says it is. so i want to talk about that. i also want to talk about some ...

My worry is that we take out these terrorist leaders and good riddance to them as i said, we don't deal of the under lining conditions, the political conditions that creates these vacuums and the rise of such groups, we don't deal with the ideology and we allow political leaders whether it is trump or obama or bush to come out and make these statements. we think it is a big deal and we carry on as business as usual. >> this is the cushion. this should be happening you know when we have a nine-hour show to do. how do you deal with the anol y ideology. he already been equalized that isis had alr...