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I'm from hazelton. it's trump country. it would be biden country if you were in this. so you're not united in policy with donald trump so what's the commonality and why can't she win with those folks? >> i think she's going to end up -- i think we're going to win scranton wilkes-barre, she's going to win. the reason is that, look, people are upset and angry. they hate the dysfunction of washington. trump comes along and talks about how he is going to change all that, he's this new breath of fresh air, and then people started to see who he is. they started to see -- look, in scranton and hazelt...

Stuffing knocked out of them. your parents would have the end of it, that would be the end of it. people are beginning to figure out, those same people are the same people with basic, decent values, and i think that's going to trump, no pun intended, their concern about hillary. >> all right. let's talk more now about vice president biden's interview with our political panel. we have matt lewis, a cnn political commentator. good to see you. also with me, politics editor for theroot.com and morgan state university professor, jason johnson. good to see you as well. matt, you first. biden repeate...

Air and then people started to see who he is and started to see. look, in scranton, hazelton, if anybody talked about, i'm famous, i can grab a woman where i want, you'd get the living stuffing knocked out of them. your parents, that would be the end of it. people are beginning to figure out, those people that have basic decent values and i think that's going to trump, no pun intended, their concern about hillary. >> what's the message? 15 million, 14 million, i guess, literally voted for him in primary and caucuses. even if he loses, 65 million americans will cast a ballot for donald trump. t...