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Seeing the testimony today, do you think this was a cover up? >> i think it's obvious that there is a cover up. if you read the whistleblower's complaint, it lays it out. in fact, it lays it out so much that there appears to be and others have noted this something close to a smoking gun in that summary. but more important than that, there is a road map that the whistleblower has given. it's not like john dean's road map in watergate. it's more like the revelations of alex butterfield that there was a white house taping system that led to nixon's doom. what we have now is that this whistleblowe...

Growing on the presidency. this one seems to be the president is the cancer if we are to read that whistleblower's complaint adequately. >> if weir -- where does the investigation go? there are a bunch of folks who are saying this shouldn't be a long investigation that goes into the election year, that essentially there is a lot of stuff out there and people need to come forward and talk and testify and it can be wrapped up shortly. it sounds like there are a lot of issues about whether other white house officials will be allowed to speak because of executive privilege by this white house. tha...

It sounds like there are a lot of issues about whether other white house officials will be allowed to speak because of executive privilege by this white house. that lock box system, is it clear to you that that can actually be looked into since it's highly classified? >> i don't know. but there seems to be a good number of witnesses to all kinds of events and all kinds of memoranda that were recorded. we'll see. but what we have now is a whole different dynamic about the future of this presidency that was not there a week ago. if there is any doubt about it, we see not only the president's wor...

>> i think it's obvious that there is a cover up. if you read the whistleblower's complaint, it lays it out. in fact, it lays it out so much that there appears to be and others have noted this something close to a smoking gun in that summary. but more important than that, there is a road map that the whistleblower has given. it's not like john dean's road map in watergate. it's more like the revelations of alex butterfield that there was a white house taping system that led to nixon's doom. what we have now is that this whistleblower has talked really about a lock box system that may contain m...