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The midterm election cycle. eric: yeah. and that is, you know, something they're betting on. what if that doesn't work out? i mean, they say the average american is going to get about $1,600 or so in savings, but this thing is adding a trillion dollars to the budget deficit. >> right. eric: bob corker was big on that until he became a yes vote. >> right. the deficit concerns continue, and the polling on this has not been favorable for republicans. it's been in the 20s to 30% approval rating which is, basically, where obamacare was when it was passed seven years ago. and i think part of that mi...

>> one lucky guy, "outnumbered" on top of the hour, >> jon: right now the nfl owners and players association reps are in new york city for their annual fall meeting. it comes against the back drop of the growing national anthem controversy. rick leventhal live in new york city on that. rick. >> jon, nfl meetings don't always draw media attention. this year is different because of the anthem protests. over the next couple of days team owners, executives, players and league officials will meet to try to come up with solutions to address this controversy surrounding the demonstrations that have i...

Appreciate what it is they he have to say by now being at the table? >> i don't understand why they have to be at the table for the owners to understand or appreciate the legitimacy of the concerns that these players are raising p. i don't agree with this form of protest. i think you should stand for the flag. that does not take way from thely jet ma thely legitimacy of the concern of the race of our country. if you want to know how a company sees a situation, follow the dollars. if the nfl is concerned about the issues, they will invest money into the cities where the players come from. the j...

My eyes when i hear it. but i person bally believe full in the right to stand for the anthem. that's my personal belief. but the idea we'll start legislating this. oh, my goodness, nfl that's a slippery slope as i said earlier. and i don't know for example the cowboys, let's say that entire offensive line decides to take, then you aren't going to play your entire line? because according to jerry jones the player will not play that minute they don't stand. sore if locking arms or what if they are sitting? or what if one stays in the locker room? this is a mess. and i think anyone would be bette...

Gesture this new locking arms thing? and why are the owners getting involved? why is jerry jones double talking? >> they are trying to find a way to heal the wounds. as far as locking arms and standing up, i have no problem with that. you are starngds up, respecting the flag. >> their right hand should be on their chest. >> it should be. but i'll take standing up. pat tillman, we bring him up, right? he goes and leaves the nfl. goes into the military and pays the ultimate price. loses his life. when i played from 12 years in the nfl, when that national anthem plays i get chills down my spine. ...