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If the impact of this has already been felt though, either damaging or beneficial, depending on how you look at this, does it matter who wrote it in the end? >> i think it does. i just want to say when you parse the letter, and i confess i am guilty of having gone through it. i have never used the word lodestar but i had to wonder if there were several things in there to disguise who did it. there was national security economic policy. what matters is not only who the person is but how high up does this person go? after that the question i think will be do other people come forward, kate. >> a...

He can trust. >> don't you think they can figure out who it is. people that use the vocabulary of lode star. >> i have figured it out already. i will divulge it. it was captain obvious. if you look at what bob woodward told us, you have gary cohn stealing papers from the president desk. it is like taking the toy away from the baby. it is the adult day care. this is confirmed what we already knew. >> he knows this. see, it is not just the people wack paper off his desk, he knows they are doing it. he only trusts let's see, and her husband.

>> him or her. >> did you push him or her on the record? "the times" wouldn't get on that. i think it would be clear this person would lose their job. it does go to the issue if there are people inside the government trying to blow the whistle, why can't they do it with their names attached? this has been a frustration i think for outsiders for some time. >> also just happening, john, our white house correspondent reporting that aides are following leads, aides in the white house following leads within the white house based on the way the piece is actually written, the words of the piece. and ...

Richmond. that's where i'm going to be. >> mayors can endorse presidents. i love doing this. i caught you, mayor. you don't want the say if you're for terry or not. he'll call you tomorrow. >> if terry mcauliffe runs for president, he has my endorsement without a doubt. >> well act, man who makes decisions on a dime. thank you, mayor of richmond. a great man. larry, what do you think of the united states coming next year? is in a lode star for 2018 politics? >> well, it's going to help democrats raise money. >> oh, yeah. >> it's going to help democrats recruit candidates. chris, what this legi...

My job. he is in the business of making money. and he has been successful. both on television as well as miss america and others. i was raised in a military family. i was raised in the concept and belief that duty, honor, country is the lode star for the behavior we have to exhibit every single day. >> did he ever apologize for saying you're not a hero? >> no. >> well, still president trump doubled down on his criticism of mccain today. >> health care i've been watching for seven years. when we have 52 senators. so you lose two, you're out. when i ran, i was told i'd have a bill on my desk, i'...