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What is the question being asked is instructive to what the biden campaign should be trying to do, which is framing this beyond even needing to pay attention to the news day at today. it's more a choice between extremism and not. i just wonder why we are not generally describing trump more as an extremist. mp like, forget about -- then again, let's not forget about the people on the ground doing good work. when it comes to what are we expecting out of this, do you want someone who feels like they are attacking every institution? do we need to recite the litany of felons and felonies? let's jus...

Actually. >> very. >> very gracious. now they brought some democrats in on tax reform. we've seen episodes here and there. the reaction to charlottesville both sides on other issues, an at best a mixed message. the american people certainly think he has to to more to divide than unite. >> there's two areas in which he has failed to live up to that sort of lofty ideal. one is policy and the other is tone. on policy, he didn't sort of take a middle of the road approach. whether it's epa and trying to gut the epa or the regulatory approach to reverse everything that barack obama did or its immigr...

Enough time to point out whether it's key or not. what i want to point out is the problem of sort of marek tock kracy. >> musical to my ears. >> what it tells people is you're in charge of these institutions because you're good and the best and people at the bottom know. >> yes. >> but there is actually approaa approached to privilege. if you have a social spomt to take care of people, that create as different society. it is the amary caratic policies that -- >> i think that's a lofty ideal. i don't think that -- >> but things have gotten worse. >> but i also thing -- >> to say, well, you're h...